Until a month or so ago, it seems relatively few people were considering the ins and outs of what an independent Scotland (and by extension a rump UK) would look like. That's not least because of the assumption most of us have had that it wouldn't happen anyway.
BOOM! One recent poll showing "Yes" in the lead and that's all changed. I don't have a vote to cast either way, and as an Anglo-German Europhile I also don't really have too much of an axe to grind in either direction. I find the whole thing utterly fascinating though, on multiple levels. Not least of these are the
practical details of what independence might look like: the little things in our lives and how they tie in to the bigger issues. I've cobbled some thoughts on some of these below.
United Kingdom, rUK, or simply FUK?There's currently a little GB symbol along with the European flag in a strip on my car licence plate. You're allowed to display a number of symbols there (including the English or Scottish flags), but it's only the European one that exempts you when you're on the continent from carrying a big ugly GB oval sticker on the back of your car in addition.
Great Britain is simply the name of the biggest island in the British isles and it's not called that because we're somehow considered fabulous. Ptolemy used it over 1850 years ago and it was originally coined to distinguish it from Ireland (
Little Britain). In French it still serves to distinguish us from Brittany. It also, of course, has a political meaning too: the Kingdom of Great Britain was the name of our State after the 1707 Act of Union between England (which since 1536 had included the principality of Wales) and Scotland. When Ireland joined in the fun on 1 January 1801 the whole thing became the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland; when Eire obtained independence our State took the name the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, or UK for short.
It's infuriating how many people don't understand the above and (particularly Americans and Germans) who refer to the whole thing as "England". No wonder half the Scots want out. I constantly have to select "Großbrittanien" as my country of residence in German drop down menus on the internet, which leads me to temporary outrage on behalf of the Northern Irish, even though I've not even been there. I really ought to go, not least to see if they really do pronounce
power shower like everyone says, though.
One thing is clear: if Scotland goes independent, there won't (or shouldn't logically) be a GB signifier for the remainder of the state. That's because a lark chunk of the part of the island of Great Britain will be an independent power. What will what's left over be called? I heard a Scots nationalist arguing that the UK no longer had the right to call itself a United Kingdom after independence. That's balls for two reasons. 1) The "United" actually clearly refers to the union with
Ireland, if you look at the paragraph before last. When it was just England and Scotland that was no "united" in the title. 2) Harsh as it may sound, we're entitled to call ourselves whatever we like after secession by Scotland. That's the whole point about independence: we're not supposed to interfere in the sovereign affairs of a foreign state.
The "United" bit therefore survived the independence of Eire, so there's no reason why we shouldn't be called the United Kingdom in the future: it's the union of a kingdom, a principality and the remainder of a kingdom. It would probably be called the
United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland in full. I've seen "United Kingdoms" suggested as an alternative but fail to see the logic in that. It made much more sense in "name our country" postal competition that took place in 1801 than it does now.
The signifier rUK is just being used now to signify the UK post-independence and no one is suggesting it seriously as a sexy new option. Thanks to my friend Peter who suggested "
FUK" (former United Kingdom) would be a good alternative. I can imagine that was the reaction in Westminster when news of the YouGov poll came in. And even more thanks to Catherine for suggesting "
FUK EW" (former United Kingdom of England and Wales). We should probably get a petition going for that one.
I'd expect UK to start replacing GB everywhere on car licence plates etc in due course. As for iScotland? Well, S has been taken by Sweden, so SC or SCO are obvious choices and I'd imagine plenty would be keen to get these on their cars sooner rather than later.
TelephonesCountries have a country code for telephone communications. The one for the UK currently is +44. The International Organization for Standardization (ISO) keeps a record of these at the United Nations under ISO 3166-1. When new countries obtain independence, and after they've been listed in the United Nations Country Names Bulletin, they have invariably wanted to obtain a new code. For example, Slovenia took the number +386 after breaking away from Yugoslavia (+890). When Czechoslovakia (+42) ceased to exist, the Czech Republic took +420 and Slovakia took +421 respectively.
Would iScotland want a new country code? On the contrary,
it seems they wish to keep the UK code of +44. It's true that the United States, Canada, Bermuda etc decided to go together under the +1 regional code when the system was set up way back when, but this is interesting. Every other new state that has come into existence since the ISO system was created has taken a new country code. It is, if you like,
an obvious international symbol of statehood and independence. It's a statement to the world.
When the .
Scot Internet domain launched in July 2014, Deputy First Minister Nicola Sturgeon seemed to get exactly that point and welcomed the launch.
"It is entirely right that Scotland should have its own distinctive and recognisable internet domain - in particular, one that will resonate internationally, helping to promote Scottish business and culture throughout the world," she said.
Hmm. I develop thoughts on this below.
Could iScotland change its mind and later apply for its own country code? Of course. However, could it force "rUK" to take a new country code on the Czechoslovakia model (eg. rUK takes +440 and Scotland takes +441)? That all depends on whether this is viewed as a secession by iScotland or a complete break-up of the existing state of the UK and creation of two new ones. That didn't happen when Eire left the then United Kingdom: a new Republic came into existence and the UK jollied on as before. I imagine the act of independence would be done by means of a declaration by iScotland and an Act of Parliament in Westminster in essence simply undoing the 1707 Act of Union. rUK would certainly strongly argue it was a secession, not a creation of two new states and it's my guess that it's the obvious conclusion the international community would share. Therefore the answer is no.
Passports and the QueenThere's a set of
quite liberal proposals about obtaining Scottish citizenship, but there's no question the physical passport would change for both countries. This wouldn't be a replacement job (too expensive and it would swamp the system) - you'd just get a new design when you came to renew in due course. The rUK one would in all likelihood carry either the "United Kingdom" or "United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland" with one probable difference.
The emblem on the passport is technically the Queen's Royal Coat of Arms. As such, it predates the Act of Union of 1707, and goes right back to the Union of Crowns of 1603. That's when King James VI of Scotland also became King James I of England because someone had chopped his Mum's head off. The Lion represents England and the Unicorn is Scotland. They switch positions according to which country they're used in.
Now there's absolutely no intention (
currently) to dissolve the 1603 Union of Crowns: the Queen will become the Head of State of iScotland, just as she is the Queen of independent Australia, Canada or Jamaica. However, keeping the very identifiable symbol of the UK on passports for both countries seems somewhat odd in the long run, after the Unicorn has pranced off into the moonlight. The Australian passport doesn't have the Royal Crest: they've got a much cooler version with a kangaroo and an emu.
Here's a more detailed explanation of the issue and the place I've lifted the rather wonderful suggestion above of a Lion and Red Dragon for the rUK and two Unicorns for iScotland. That could well appear on your passport some time in the future.
Just a passing thought on the Queen. She's officially neutral and I believe that she may not be quite as upset about the "break up of the Union" as the press is assuming. What ultimately matters far more is the survival of monarchy and the crown. The key point is that the Windsors be assured to sit on the throne of the new kingdom. Some SNP politicians are of course republicans, and polls show support for republicanism is
somewhat stronger in Scotland than elsewhere in the UK, but it's still nowhere near a majority.
Nonetheless, when Princess Elizabeth was born the British Empire was at its zenith, and her parents were a King-Emperor and a Queen-Empress. She may well live to see the UK as it currently is bite the dust. How times change, so very rapidly.
The Union FlagScotland has a flag: the fair Saltire. If you haven't already seen it, watch Downing Street
bollocks up hoisting the thing on live TV earlier this week here. The UK also has a flag which includes the Saltire. There have been
various horrific suggestions for what might replace it. I've included my personal favourite below, which brings to mind what watching Magic Roundabout on a bad acid trip with a hangover from the night before must be a bit like. GOD IT'S HORRIBLE.
The answer is of course that it's entirely up to rUK what flag they want and no pressing need to ditch the Union Flag... though keeping it in the long run would definitely seem odd. That in turns makes you wonder what all the other ex-colonial countries with the Union Flag incorporated into theirs might do.
New Zealand is already considering a completely new flag with the super cool silver fern. It might just be the impetus for anyone else to cut ties with the "Motherland" if the Union Flag has technically become an anachronism.
Car Licence Plates UK licence plates currently can have that GB/EU symbol discussed above. I can't imagine it lasting with the meaningless "GB" on there for too long. Since 2001, vehicles first registered in Scotland bear an S as the first letter of the registration (just as those in Wales bear a C for
Cymru). What would the situation be post-independence? Here's Scotland's deputy first minister,
Nicola Sturgeon of the SNP, on the subject:
“The thing about independence is that it gives you the ability to do these things differently if you want to. But it also gives you the ability, in discussion with others, to share your sovereignty. And I think the DVLA is one of those things we would sit down and have a grown-up discussion with the UK government and decide that’s something we should do”.
Hmm again. This is interesting. In the case of the break-up of other states I can remember in my lifetime (Czechoslovakia, Yugoslavia) and the unification of Germany (the other way round) there was a rush to emphasise nationhood by the rapid adoption of obvious symbols such as licence plates. Even during the Bosnian war of independence, when Sarajevo was being blown apart in daily bombardments, I remember seeing a car that showed someone was even issuing licence plates with "BIH" for Bosnia and Herzegovina on them during the shelling. It's similar thinking to the +44 phone number issue, and it definitely doesn't seem to match the statement on the .Scot domain.
DVLA is based in Swansea. It's a UK governmental agency. To say that you want to "share sovereignty" (i.e. use a foreign country's governmental agencies) implies a number of possibilities. One is that neither side in this debate thought with a week to go we would realistically be dealing with a "too close to call" situation. Therefore issues like this just weren't ever given serious consideration. Another is the intention is actually to deal with issues such as this over time, but there's a realisation that many people are inherently conservative, and it's considered a vote loser to emphasise too many changes in things people are familiar with.
Personally it seems to me a weird stance to want fully fledged national independence and not want to deal with every day symbols of national identity like this. If I were a Yes voter, I don't think I'd want foreign licence plates on my car: I'd want ones of my newly independent nation. The last possibility runs counter to that and suggests that this is actually a very different movement to other nationalist movements that we've seen across Europe. I'll develop that though further when I come to some thoughts on the type of people who are voting Yes.
European UnionThe politicians in both camps have been spinning this question left, right and upside down to suit their own ends. The SNP position is that Scotland is already a member of the EU, so it wouldn't need to reapply for membership. Based on very loud noises from Brussels, that seems unlikely to be the case. Of course the EU has its own vested interests in a "No" vote (stopping similar independence movements across the continent) and so common sense dictates that anything any politician says before a "yes" vote may well not end up being the case afterwards.
I'm a mere lawyer with some understanding of the EU treaties and law. It seems to me that a new application for membership is the most likely course and find this
summary by Professor Murkens of the LSE to be quite persuasive. The simple fact is none of us knows for sure, though, and I don't quote that to add to the fear-mongering of the No campaign. Faced with a prosperous Western European nation asking for membership, with all the necessary EU rules in place, I don't think there's any prospect of the answer being "no". The EU will want iScotland as a member. When other countries joined (even the likes of Sweden and Austria) they had to pass literally thousands of pieces of legislation. That won't be the case here, so in theory the process should be more straightforward than for any other new member.
There is a big "but" though: EU law sets out as clearly as it could be that all new members have to join A) the Euro; and B) the Schengen Open Borders Agreement. I really wonder why hasn't this been discussed more, because it's pretty significant. Reading
Süddeutsche Zeitung, iScotland's obligation to sign up for the Euro isn't even a discussion point: it's assumed they will join up.
Only the UK and Denmark have an opt out from the Euro, which they secured at the time before the currency was a reality. To secure a similar concession, Scotland would have to get the unanimous agreement of all 28 EU members. Getting admisssion to the EU in principle might not be tricky, but obtaining an opt-out could well be. I don't see why Spain and Belgium (and to some extent, Italy), fearful of their own independence movements, would be terribly well-inclined to give Scotland special favours on admission.
There's a 18 month period between any Yes vote and independence. That represents a huge time pressure to lobby and convince all 28 governments if there is to be a seamless transition that avoids iScotland being outside the EU for some time whilst this is resolved. In politics anything is of course possible, but as a lawyer, I'm clear what the legal situation is (assuming new admission is required). It presents a very real challenge to get the job done in time.
What about rUK's position in the EU? We were
just given a top economic job at the EU Commission. Scotland would expect its own Commissioner in due course and there would inevitably be some loss of influence in Brussels by the reduction in size of our state. However given it would still stand at 58.8 million population (a loss of 5.3 million), with 90% of its GDP intact, I can't imagine this will be too significant. The continuing attitude of our Europhobic government
pissing of all of its partners is much more of a factor in my book.
If rUK returns a Tory government next May and they hold a referendum in 2017 on the EU, pro-Europeans will be faced with the loss of supporters in iScotland. The Scots are generally held to be far more pro-EU. That could well be a game-changing problem for those of us who want the rUK to stay firmly in the European Union.
The Scotto, the Pound, or the Euro This shit is complicated and my A-level Economics isn't really up to it. I refer instead to
Frances Coppola's very clear and sensible (if anti-Euro) piece, written over 2.5 years ago, on the "currency conundrum". Little has changed. It is, as Frances is keen to point out, not a "No" piece: she simply ultimately believes Scotland requires its own currency. That's one option, and it's what Slovenia did with the Tolar, and what Croatia did with the Kuna: let's call it the Scotto. It has its obvious risks, but on the other hand there are plenty of far small economies that survive with currencies of their own quite successfully.
The other options are 1) a currency union (all English party leaders say no - who knows if they will change their position post a Yes vote); 2) the "Panama"/ "Kosovo" model of using the British £ unofficially (
an EU commissioner unambiguously said entry to the EU would be impossible if this were the case because of the lack of a central bank); and 3) entry to the Euro.
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| Latvian €1. Will the Queen's head make it onto a Euro after all? |
What interests me is whether the Euro is not the stealth option that Salmond has up his sleeve. He repeatedly said he favoured this option until the 2008 crisis. The press in the UK has thoroughly and probably fatally poisoned popular opinion towards to the Euro, including in Scotland
where just 4% favour it as a currency as soon as possible post independence. This isn't the case everywhere in the EU however. Estonia joined the Eurozone on 1 January 2013, Latvia became the 18th member on 1 January 2014, and Poland's government is broadly in favour of entry in 2016. All are successful, dynamic, growing economies. It is the
default legal position on entering the EU, as discussed. It would be truly fascinating to see Salmond returning from Brussels telling Scottish voters "we have to join the Euro, or we don't join the EU".
The simple fact is none of us has an idea which option will happen post independence. It's a leap into the unknown, but then so is life. The global economy unexpectedly went down the plug-hole in 2008 and there's for sure no guarantees of a "safe-existence" in life. It's down to voters whether pro-independence supporters think the risk of the unknown is fatal to their voting Yes. I can't make their mind up on that and wouldn't presume to.
As for rUK? Yeah we'll be stuck with the Pound Sterling for the foreseeable future. I know that if Scotland did join the Euro, and Schengen, (and went fully metric for good measure) I'd seriously consider moving up there.
Border ChecksHow to win hearts and minds?
Threaten to put border guards on the Scottish border. Bravo, Ed! That certainly isn't going to happen overnight, but thinking things round it is a possibility. It is an exercise of a State's sovereignty to control its borders in whatever way it thinks fit, subject to any international agreements it has made on the subject. The reason there isn't an external border crossing with Scotland currently is that we're one State. That will clearly change on 24 March 2016 if there's a Yes next week. Put bluntly, if the rUK wanted to introduce border checks with its new foreign neighbour, iScotland couldn't stop it.
When Eire became independent there was a desire not to impose border controls, and therefore to require people to carry passports, when crossing into Northern Ireland. Accordingly in 1923 what later became the "Common Travel Area" was born between the UK and Eire. The Isle of Man, Jersey and Guernsey are also members. The SNP says it wants iScotland to be a signatory to this agreement, and on the face of it that's a likely and desirable outcome. Some of our politicians can be desperately petty, but the prospect of people having their passports systematically checked on the London-Edinburgh East Coast train, or on the M6 just north of Southwaite services, isn't an attractive one for anyone involved.
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However, we've got the complicating issue of Schengen. It's just like the Common Travel Area, but bigger. You can set off in a car from SE Portugal and drive 6000 km up to the Russian border in NE Finland without having your passport checked. Every member of the 26 member Schengen Area has the obligation to check people entering the zone from outside, and then they're free to travel about in accordance with the EU principle of free movement of people. As we know from above, all new entrants to the EU have to sign up to Schengen. Only the UK and Eire got opt-outs at the time of incorporation of the agreement into EU law, because the UK didn't want to join (yay, Daily Mail!) and Ireland didn't as a consequence want to erect a physical border with Northern Ireland that the Common Travel Area had prevented for over 70 years.
So, unless Scotland can secure an opt-out on Schengen by getting all 28 EU members to agree to it, it's going to be in the zone. That means it has, by law, to secure and check its land border with England - this will be an "external border" in Schengen terms. Committees of the House of Lords have twice
recommended that the UK sign up to Schengen in order to improve border security, by the way. The primary advantage is full access to the vast electronic Schengen Information Systems that keep police records and data on prospective entrants to the area. There's also a huge advantage to travellers who don't appreciate hour long queues at airports when they're on a 35 minute flight over from Amsterdam to London. Our entry to Schengen is of course currently about as likely as Nigel Farage wearing a European onesie singing Ode to Joy on the 6 o'clock news, given the present "the immigrants are invading" mentality most Brits seem to have.
As with the Euro, we don't know whether iScotland would get a Schengen opt-out. Anything is possible. I hope they don't, and that it will spur Eire to ditching the Common Travel Area to join Schengen too. It would put massive pressure on rUK to join the rest of the EU and stop pretending we're an impenetrable fortress because of a load of Border Agency staff holding up the millions of legitimate travellers entering the country. I can but dream.
The other issue is iScotland's
stated intention of a far more liberal immigration policy. They need to do this to attract more tax payers to support spending plans (particularly pensions). The Common Travel Area relies on broadly similar agreed immigration policies and levels. If iScotland became an "open door" to immigrants, who then
in significant numbers sneaked across the border at Berwick without checks, in time an rUK government might consider border controls. Realistically I think this is a very distant prospect and potential problem, but it has been mentioned by politicians. The Schengen issue looks much more likely to me.
Residence Permits and VisasDon't be silly. You don't need residence or work permits as an EU citizen in any other EU state (unless you're a Croatian, in some states, just for the moment, because they only joined last year). You won't need one for iScotland, assuming they get into the EU as is almost certain, and they won't need one for the rUK. Nor will you need a visa: you don't require one for Romania, so why would you? It's far from certain there will even be a border control as we've seen.
EmbassiesIt seems the plan is for iScotland
to have around 100 embassies or consular offices around the world which is similar to Eire's number (97). That compares to the UK's 270. Fair enough. One would be in London, except it would be called a High Commission, just like all other members of the Commonwealth. Similarly rUK would have a High Commissioner (ambassador in all but name) based in Edinburgh. We would be separate, foreign nations and so diplomatic representation and consular services for citizens abroad would be required. Weird to think of going to Edinburgh as "going abroad' isn't it? But that's what it would be.
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| UK embassy in Berlin. Start looking for office space, iScotland? |
Government AgenciesIn a fantastic admission that the Westminster establishment never expected independence to happen, Cabinet Secretary Jeremy Heywood
admitted on Monday that absolutely no contingency plans had been drawn up if there's a yes vote. "Whitehall won't know what to do". Untangling the mass of intertwined civil administration would be a massive task. In Keynesian economic terms it
could represent a wonderful boost to both economies in terms of the multiplier effect of reversing all the austerity cuts in the public sector in order to deal with it all.
Let's go back to the DVLA. Vehicle licence plates are one thing that the UK-wide agency handles. The other is it issues driver licences and keeps driver records. That means that unless the Scottish part were untangled, Scottish driver licences would be issued by a foreign country's governmental agency. Isn't that genuinely odd?
With their infinite Little Englander wisdom, the Tories have
opted out of an EU directive that allows cross-border data sharing for speeding and other motoring offences. Next time a German or French car goes at 90mph through a 30mph speed camera endangering your and everyone else's lives, you'll know who to thank. How would fines and points work with iScotland? If DVLA continued serving both countries, and there were a cross-border treaty on mutual enforceability, there would presumably be no issue.
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| Free Speeding for all EU nationals c/o our government. Yay! |
But that isn't by any means assured. Why? Because there seems to be a certain naivety in assuming that an rUK government would agree to any use of any of its agencies and institutions. Despite all the smarmy protestations from English politicians currently that we are best friends and that they will love Scotland beyond the grave, I wouldn't be terribly surprised to find both a Tory and a Labour led Westminster government remarkably short of goodwill, particularly regarding sharing their national governmental resources and institutions. Remember this will be in respect of an SNP administration that had just successfully broken up the Union. When I pointed this out to a Yes supporter I was chatting to on Twitter, he seemed genuinely surprised and disappointed.
Back to the original point, this doesn't just apply to the DVLA of course: there are hundreds of governmental institutions that do work across the UK currently. None of this is, of course, of itself to vote one way or the other. It can be sorted out without question. If Scotland needs its own DVLA it can set one up. Every other newly independent country in Europe has created a complete set of its own institutions, after all. What's of note is that we don't know the answer to any of it - and with a week to go that in itself is perhaps a little remarkable.
24 March 2016The date for independence has been set for 24 March 2016. It's a date resplendent in historical significance. It's the day in 1603 when Elizabeth I died and with James' accession to the throne of England, the Union of Crowns occurred. It's also the date in 1707 when the Act of Union was signed and the Kingdom of Great Britain was "born". It will be exactly 309 years old when it kicks the bucket, if Yes all goes to plan. It's perfectly likely to become a national holiday for iScotland.
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| James VI/I's shag buddy, George. Why not? |
24 March is also the Old New Year's Eve under the Julian Calendar, and is the reason
why the tax year still ends on 5 April. The Old New Year's Day was 25 March, which is when Mary apparently got up the duff, exactly 9 months before Christmas Day (a totally fictitious and arbitrary date as everyone knows: no one knows what date Jesus was actually born). So there's a neat symmetry in it all. Kinda.
Nationalism and Support for YesDuring the spadework for my rambling discourse I've picked up on several practical examples of something I hadn't expected. It is the point that came up first with the telephone codes, then with the car licence plates, the continuing use of DVLA and other government agencies, the retention of the British £, membership of the Common Travel Area, and even wanting the Queen as the Head of State. This seems to me to be a remarkably conservative and not at all typically "nationalist" movement in many respects.
This isn't by any means the aggressive, symbol-rife, old-fashioned nationalism which was found in plenty of independence movements during the collapse of the Empire, when emblems of Britain were pulled from buildings and statues of monarchs removed. This isn't even Slovenia, a quiet Alpine nation which moved, as rapidly as it possibly could, to introduce all the outward signs and symbols of nationhood: "SLO" on its licence plates, its own currency and its own border crossings. There's (apparently) remarkably little of the (not unreasonable) sentiment that Nicola Sturgeon expressed about the .Scot domain to be found anywhere else.
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| The Auld Bitch as Joyce called her. Once in Dublin, now in Sydney |
There are of course plenty of vocal "frothingly nationalist" Scots about (I've encountered some myself on Twitter, and have heard stories from Scottish friends of aggressive Anglophobia at the moment) who seem driven by hatred of the English.
I've been amazed, though, at the amount of people I know and respect from all manner of backgrounds who are Yes supporters. They're Green party members, liberals, Europhile cosmopolitans, feminists, moderate open-minded lefties. These are people you'd never lump into any traditional understanding of "nationalists". As Suzanne Moore
pointed out in a superb piece today, the knocking of "Scottish nationalism" by the elite is in any case inherently a bit ridiculous:
"The language of the no camp – Westminster, bankers, Farage, Prescott, the Orangemen and Henry Kissinger – is innately patronising. Do not give in to petty nationalism, they say. Just stick with the bigger unionist nationalism; it’s better for you."
What I'm therefore getting from my observation of the whole debate is that many people who support "Yes" in Scotland actually just fundamentally want Westminster out of their lives and that's pretty much the extent of it. They want to have full control of taxation, immigration, nuclear weapons, benefits and privatisation (the last four of which they incidentally wouldn't receive under Devo-Max). They don't necessarily want to cut all ties with rUK at all: in fact, being the inherently conservative creatures that many of us are, they would rather most things stayed exactly the same as they are now. The SNP may be exploiting that fact by deliberately not being open about what changes they do intend to bring about, or they may share the sentiment. I don't know enough to judge.
Those wanting everything to remain as it is, absent Westminster's control, may get a rude awakening in the first few months of iScotland. That might come when they realise they are part of a country with a foreign, Tory run neighbour that is feeling rather bruised by its rejection, and isn't terribly generous or well-disposed to allowing use of its governmental agencies, for example. Time will tell.
Inevitably, also, as things go on the two nations will develop separately and will grow apart. You can already clearly see that in Czech Republic and Slovakia just 21 years after the "velvet divorce". My friend Paul asked if those English who are currently vocally expressing a personal bond with Scotland, feel the same connection to Eire, 90 years after its independence. The answer was generally no, which is quite interesting. Being part of two separate sovereign states will lead to differences growing.
Best of Luck I really get how divisive this debate is for many people. I've had people genuinely upset about what is going on (as well as excited and engaged, it must be said). It looks like the outcome is going to leave almost exactly half the population deeply unhappy and that's a sad thing. I understand and have sympathies with both sides of the debate. It is a massive leap into the dark, with plenty of problems and pitfalls, and in addition I personally
really cannot stand Alex Salmond. On the other hand it's an exciting potential for change and very much a once in a lifetime opportunity. It has the potential to bring about change for better in rUK too.
I hope I haven't been too flippant in my blog post and it's been of some interest in bringing together the type of nitty-gritty detail I'm always interested in. I wish everyone in Scotland, or the iScotland of the future (I should TM that before Apple does) the very best. This whole thing is certainly absolutely fascinating if nothing else.
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